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posted on 25/6/2020 09:18The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue
was to you asking whether I was ok with people ****ting in the street or dumping toxic waste. I was saying that this was an extreme example that you were using to make a wider point.
Your question as to whether I think the restrictions were reasonable is a fair one, and the answer, for what it's worth, is no. I think they were far too wide and represented a grave intrusion on individual freedoms.
But the question in my original post was intended to be on the wider point as to whether the labour voting people on here would agree with the Telegraph's assertion that Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that Covid has caused. Put another way, is a high degree of state control a desirable state of affairs for your average-Joe Labour voter?
Your question as to whether I think the restrictions were reasonable is a fair one, and the answer, for what it's worth, is no. I think they were far too wide and represented a grave intrusion on individual freedoms.
But the question in my original post was intended to be on the wider point as to whether the labour voting people on here would agree with the Telegraph's assertion that Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that Covid has caused. Put another way, is a high degree of state control a desirable state of affairs for your average-Joe Labour voter?
- "Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that the emergency has ushered in." - bitterblue 24/6 21:40 (read 14400 times, 16 posts in thread)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 14677 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 14620 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 15071 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 14767 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 15131 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 15131 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 15246 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 14991 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 15140 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 14922 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 15130 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 15056 times)
- (hasty title edit) your post makes sense now ;-) - Nicolae 25/6 14:55 (read 14820 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 15056 times)
- "a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen" = the libertarian continuum - Gramsci. 25/6 13:56 (read 14555 times)
- <tumbleweed> from bitterblue - Gramsci. 26/6 19:07 (read 13881 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 15130 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 14922 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 15140 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 14991 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 15246 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 15131 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 15131 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 14767 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 15071 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 14620 times)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 14677 times)