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posted on 25/6/2020 12:54You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue
though I suspect that in reality you don't and are just trying to start a different discussion about the finer detail of the government's policy on lockdown!
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
- "Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that the emergency has ushered in." - bitterblue 24/6 21:40 (read 18375 times, 16 posts in thread)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 18838 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 18740 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 19217 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 18883 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 19374 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 19349 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 19469 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 19130 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 19373 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 19062 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 19618 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 19330 times)
- (hasty title edit) your post makes sense now ;-) - Nicolae 25/6 14:55 (read 19291 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 19330 times)
- "a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen" = the libertarian continuum - Gramsci. 25/6 13:56 (read 18756 times)
- <tumbleweed> from bitterblue - Gramsci. 26/6 19:07 (read 17982 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 19618 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 19062 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 19373 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 19130 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 19469 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 19349 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 19374 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 18883 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 19217 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 18740 times)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 18838 times)