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posted on 25/6/2020 09:18The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue
was to you asking whether I was ok with people ****ting in the street or dumping toxic waste. I was saying that this was an extreme example that you were using to make a wider point.
Your question as to whether I think the restrictions were reasonable is a fair one, and the answer, for what it's worth, is no. I think they were far too wide and represented a grave intrusion on individual freedoms.
But the question in my original post was intended to be on the wider point as to whether the labour voting people on here would agree with the Telegraph's assertion that Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that Covid has caused. Put another way, is a high degree of state control a desirable state of affairs for your average-Joe Labour voter?
Your question as to whether I think the restrictions were reasonable is a fair one, and the answer, for what it's worth, is no. I think they were far too wide and represented a grave intrusion on individual freedoms.
But the question in my original post was intended to be on the wider point as to whether the labour voting people on here would agree with the Telegraph's assertion that Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that Covid has caused. Put another way, is a high degree of state control a desirable state of affairs for your average-Joe Labour voter?
- "Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that the emergency has ushered in." - bitterblue 24/6 21:40 (read 17695 times, 16 posts in thread)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 18156 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 18038 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 18528 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 18189 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 18649 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 18655 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 18745 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 18417 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 18644 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 18351 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 18914 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 18610 times)
- (hasty title edit) your post makes sense now ;-) - Nicolae 25/6 14:55 (read 18589 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 18610 times)
- "a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen" = the libertarian continuum - Gramsci. 25/6 13:56 (read 18080 times)
- <tumbleweed> from bitterblue - Gramsci. 26/6 19:07 (read 17316 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 18914 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 18351 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 18644 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 18417 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 18745 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 18655 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 18649 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 18189 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 18528 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 18038 times)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 18156 times)