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posted on 25/6/2020 12:54You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue
though I suspect that in reality you don't and are just trying to start a different discussion about the finer detail of the government's policy on lockdown!
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
- "Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that the emergency has ushered in." - bitterblue 24/6 21:40 (read 135 times, 16 posts in thread)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 128 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 129 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 129 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 129 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 124 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 129 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 120 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 121 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 128 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 124 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 119 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 113 times)
- (hasty title edit) your post makes sense now ;-) - Nicolae 25/6 14:55 (read 116 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 113 times)
- "a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen" = the libertarian continuum - Gramsci. 25/6 13:56 (read 128 times)
- <tumbleweed> from bitterblue - Gramsci. 26/6 19:07 (read 97 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 119 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 124 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 128 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 121 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 120 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 129 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 124 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 129 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 129 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 129 times)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 128 times)