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posted on 25/6/2020 12:54You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue
though I suspect that in reality you don't and are just trying to start a different discussion about the finer detail of the government's policy on lockdown!
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
My question is whether as a general matter of common ideology, if common ideology can even exist in any political party, it is true to say (as the Telegraph writer clearly believes it is) that the typical Labour voter is "at ease" with a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen. You can assume for the purposes of the question that it relates to any government policy, not just health.
i.e. do you like being told by government to do the right thing rather than trusted by government to do the right thing?
- "Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that the emergency has ushered in." - bitterblue 24/6 21:40 (read 13797 times, 16 posts in thread)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 14048 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 14019 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 14420 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 14155 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 14504 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 14454 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 14591 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 14346 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 14491 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 14293 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 14452 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 14431 times)
- (hasty title edit) your post makes sense now ;-) - Nicolae 25/6 14:55 (read 14102 times)
- I don't think you're right there - Gramsci. 25/6 14:25 (read 14431 times)
- "a higher rather than lower level of governmental control over the individual citizen" = the libertarian continuum - Gramsci. 25/6 13:56 (read 13959 times)
- <tumbleweed> from bitterblue - Gramsci. 26/6 19:07 (read 13303 times)
- would it be unfair to say... - Nicolae 25/6 14:00 (read 14452 times)
- You misunderstand my initial post, - bitterblue 25/6 12:54 (read 14293 times)
- I thought we were comparing our appetite for libertarianism. So - Gramsci. 25/6 11:29 (read 14491 times)
- Quelle surprise! - bitterblue 25/6 10:47 (read 14346 times)
- Which aspects of the lockdown were too severe for you? Nt - Gramsci. 25/6 10:09 (read 14591 times)
- The reference I made to extreme examples - bitterblue 25/6 09:18 (read 14454 times)
- I am assuming that the Telegraph article you mentioned at the start is topical/about lockdown etc - Gramsci. 25/6 09:03 (read 14504 times)
- Hard cases make bad law, as the saying goes - bitterblue 25/6 08:36 (read 14155 times)
- And your view? The restrictions that we were under in April and May - Gramsci. 25/6 08:09 (read 14420 times)
- in the context of the article - bitterblue 25/6 07:28 (read 14019 times)
- What does "state control of the individual" mean? - Gramsci. 24/6 22:57 (read 14048 times)