was to you asking whether I was ok with people ****ting in the street or dumping toxic waste. I was saying that this was an extreme example that you were using to make a wider point.

Your question as to whether I think the restrictions were reasonable is a fair one, and the answer, for what it's worth, is no. I think they were far too wide and represented a grave intrusion on individual freedoms.

But the question in my original post was intended to be on the wider point as to whether the labour voting people on here would agree with the Telegraph's assertion that Labour is ideologically at ease with the state control that Covid has caused. Put another way, is a high degree of state control a desirable state of affairs for your average-Joe Labour voter?